granjenal15
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A serious question! I mean I undsterstand the makers of the boxes wanna get paid. Isn't it the most expensive instrument. I mean I love the accordion. I just don't think I'll come close to buying a good quality one. |
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gogo
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well compared to a grand piano, they're rather cheap. i think that most of the cost comes from a number of factors. they can't be massed produced because of lack of demand,therefore the process of making a box is very timely,requiring a lot of labor hours. Then the availability of makers is scarce,so little competition forces costumers few options. Don't worry if you desire a quality box , you'll have it.
(in time my friend)
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Its a general rule that applies almost to everything.
If u want something good, its gonna cost you. U can buy your self a brand new gabby for i wan to say $4000? Or u can buy a yingie or a rosetti for $200.
Also the economy that we're in doesnt help. A used nice one can be of your liking and suitable for you budget but that depends on what u want.
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granjenal15
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Big Dre would you recomend two honers or a two tone gabb? |
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hohner323
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hey you should play both brands gabbanelli and hohner and decide what feels better......they are both great instruments
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granjenal15
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maybe if i bought two panthers one in fa and one in sol
itll come the cheapest! |
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hohner323
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yeah offcourse.....u should do that and just customize them little by little
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granjenal15
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I might just have to do that pimp it out! |
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peeper
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remember gabbanellis have 34 treble buttons vs 31 on hohners.
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You can easily pay more for string instruments than the most expensive most historic accordion.
They have violins that sell in the millions, chellos strirng bass guitars all of them can sell for more than the most expensive accordion.
And now with the panthers and cheap chinese you can start out with a cheap accordion as well.
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Pickett
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haven't you heard, Hohner makes a 34 button as well.
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HITMAN
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The bad, PANTHERS. only come in sol... have to spend some extra hundreds to get a different tone.... (not fair) ..... de hay sigue la Hohner Compadre....
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hohner323
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well if you know how to hustle you can get it in a difrent tone for example buy it in sol then buy extra reeds fa o mi...and then sale the sol reeds......
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granjenal15
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exactly my point thats what i could probably do!? but who know my pops could get me that that two tone gab for christmas |
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elrubio
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Accordeons are not so expensive when compared with other instruments.. even other free reed instruments such as a Concertina.
For $350-$800 you can get a very good playable accordeon..
in a concertina.. a decent playable one will start around $1800 and those have accordeon, not concertina reeds. A quality concertina would be $3000 up.
Accordeons are "expensive" because there is no way to replace hand work...
all, even cheap Chinese accordeons, are hand made.
As to the other question of a Gabb or something else...
and one 2 tone box or 2 Hohners...
Just my usual humble opinion.. I do not believe Gabbs to be a good value
Most folks don't use all 34 buttons...as evidenced by 60 years of the Corona style box.... in fact very few players have 34 button boxes...
Gabbanelli made 31 button boxes for years...
31 is all you need, 34 is a luxury
However why not get a Hohner Xtreme III n with 34 buttons and 5 switches in one key system and them and a Panther in another.. and yes there have been ,F/Bb/Eb Panthers. Or get a Hohner Xtreme II .....
Why not use your own money and get a Panther in GCF and get going with your playing skills.. then down the road get an Xtreme III N or II N in F/Bb/Eb, and if you want...upgrade your Panther to a better GCF box of your choice.
As to 2 tone boxes... these are designed for the convenience of playing with bands and usually NOT played by solo players such as Flaco etc...
They are heavy, slow and quiet... not something I would ever own.
I personally think they are silly...
I have owned quite a few Hohner Coronas.. amd the best of them was a Pre Corona and a 60's Corona.... one near mint the other mint and both were under $500... I bought a newish 70's for $300 in ADG several others ijn excellent condition including a IIIR and have never paid more than $500
New Panthers rival the quality and playability of many of the older Coronas...
Gabbs are for folks that "must" have them regardless of any facts about their quality or price/ value....
If you want something in that price range get a Dino Baffetti
If you want something bad enough, you will find a (legal) way to get it.
PS
My parents never bought me a bicycle or a car or an accordeon.
Pride and self reliance prevented me from having them do that.
I have sold my car to buy a guitar.. and walked for months to do it.
That's the " Cowboy Way" : )
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granjenal15
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@elrubio I like how you think man but I guess I have to get the two tone for the convenience of my band i want to get together
i'll just have to save up money to get to skool and an acordeon! =) |
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elrubio
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A Dino 2 tone will run about $3500 plus unless you find one used
The "inconvenience" of 2 accordeons is taking one off.. and puttng the other on.
I don't see Joel Guzman with a 2 tone box. and he often plays with a band...
I don't see Flaco with a 2 tone
No European player I know plays a 2 tone
There is a Cajun ( one row ) box maker that makers switcher ( 2 key) boxes
No one I know that is a serious player has one
They are "show" pieces
Get a decent 2 reed 3 row box and work up from there
There are many players who play in more than 5 keys on a GCF
I like the total economy of a single tone box
The economy of money...
economy of time in learning
the economy of weight
and the smugness of doing on my box what others try to do on a 2 tone
BTW I am primarily a one row player... yup... one row....
then a 2 row player then 3 row
Most fun... one row.....
I started taking three row pieces of music and figuring how to play them on a 2 row... then taking the 2 row piece and making it work on a 1 row
My favorite Tex Mex players...
first Santiage Jimenez Sr and Jr then all the way up to El Parche
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Russ
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the trick to playing with a band if you have two 3 rows and the band wants to play in different keys is to plan your set list so you can play 2 or 4 songs in a row without switching - also it gives you something to do between songs.
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elrubio
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Good points Russ
I see no problem in setting a box down and grabbing another..
makes for some interest rather than a seamless transition to another tune
It punctuates the program.
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Russ
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I also see guitar players switch guitars and horn players switch horns.
You could also play a chromatic or piano accordion and never have to switch
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Alberto
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Rubio.
I totally agree with your idea of the 2 tone boxes. I find them over sized,heavy, weak and slow. It may be somewhat convenient but Im still staying aways from those.
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cruzrayas
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It is like everything else demand. People keep buying them no matter how expensive they are. But the people that have money buy them to be like the pro's . luxury because i know some people that own gabby's and dont know how to play them. No offense guys, do not mean to offend anybody but that is the truth. If people didn't buy them they would have to lower their price or go up so high for the ones that buy just to earn a living. I stiil don;t know why they have not come out with a replica half tha cost of the originals.
Es como todo lo demas, demanda. Gente las sigue comprando aunque esten caras.Pero la gente que tiene dinero las compra para ser como los profesionales aunque no sepan tocar. Sin ofender a nadie, a poco no. Si la gente no las comprara tendrian que bajar los precios o subirlos tan altos que solo los mazizoz los comprarian para mantenerlos en el negocio. Yo no se porque todavia no salen con una replica o imitacion alas acordeones de marca porque buenas todas son y las vendan a la mitad de lo que valen las originales. Saludos a todos.
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